While both specialties require extensive training, there are various differences between orthopedic spine surgeons and neurosurgeons.
Any recs on programs?It is a fellowship out of general surgery and its basically general surgery on steroids with more variety. Don't like ICU care? I plan to complete a fellowship in spine either way and be in private practice after I finish. Are you really that excited about SPINE?? Maybe I'm not seeing the light. It states clearly that neurosurgical residents do more than double the spine cases as ortho residents, and this number is more consistent across all residency programs surveyed.
i my self am stuck between Ortho, ENT, and Gen Surg. Lots of cancer (testicular, bladder, renal, prostate), lots of lifestyle improvement (stones, incontinence, ED), lots of life-changing stuff (infertility comes to mind).Happy patients, less time spent on the floors. Orthopaedics vs. Neurosurgery?
On his second arrival, he was somewhat more compliant and got a suprapubic catheter. share. When people met me in med school they assumed that they misheard me when I said Ophtho. Perhaps other pros and cons?EDIT: Also, how are outcomes, on average? Just finished my spine rotation (first of 2) and loved it, looking for fellowships right now. The patients are usually grateful and you work with the coolest guys (and some girls). so which do you think has the quieter call nights..ortho or neuro?
The residency is a little less taxing and you can do all the spine you want. You may be tired after a grueling residency and just want to go out into practice. If you dont like trauma, go to a non trauma center. A lot of spine sugery is chronic pain/workman's comp. The patient isn't gonna make it until a specialist gets there. Gen Surg is definitely cool and affords a wide variety of fields to get invovled in (ie, lapro, CT, Surg. while dermatology sounds nice...I'd rather have my left nut chopped off by a chainsaw than be a pimplepopperMD Go to a hospital without and ICU or with an open ICU (that way you only take care of your patients). Some people are afraid of penises and vaginas, this is not the field for them.In short, it's a field with happy patients, (mostly) happy surgeons, a ton of cool procedures, and a nice lifestyle. This is the specialty that keeps the general surgeon true to his name. The four blobs of silicone extracted from his urethra and bladder were Lots and lots and lots of penises and prostates.
For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.Is anybody else having this same dilemma? I wonder if it's different at other places?? When people come in with diverticulitis, appendicitis, cholecystitis, nec fasc, etc, you are there to get them in and out. Are you really that excited about SPINE?? As for the article quoting 300 to 500 cases done in fellowship, the source of this number is unreliable, AND, this includes all spine procedures, which no doubt includes tons of bread and butter cases that don't have a lot of value in fellowship training. Through UF Health (formerly Shands Hospital at the University of Florida) and the Gainesville VA Medical Center, the UF Department of Neurosurgery offers services in cerebrovascular surgery, radiosurgery, epilepsy treatment, spine and spinal cord surgery, pediatric neurosurgery… Sorry for the rant, just something that's on the brain today for some reason I'm an ortho pg3 right now. I feel as though I'm jaded to these folks and I'm only 2/3 done with my MS-3 year. They spend countless hours taking care of the sickest, most hopeless patients in the hospital. Over the course of 7 years, a neurosurgery resident will have logged MANY more spine cases than a fellowship trained ortho spine surgeon and even an ortho spine surgeon who has been in practice for a couple of years doing only spine surgery. 'Twas done.A short time later, he found he could no longer urinate and sought medical attention. If you don't like adrenaline inducing cases and operative challenges then you may not like this specialty. Do you have any other advice for an aspiring trauma surgeon? What is your "bread and butter" surgery?
I have noticed that many of the docs that I work with do indeed refer their patients to the pain clinic. JavaScript is disabled. In one study by both neuro and ortho surgeons, the authors conclude: "Thus, before entering independent practice, when compared with neurosurgery residents, most orthopedic spine surgeons complete as many spinal procedures or more..." Why spine? You are working in cooperation with other physicians and other surgeons to get the patient the most complete care possible. Will that remain your #1 priority? My interest is actually in spine surgery. Fertility-trained fellows will be good microsurgeons.Surgeries range from the very short (urolifts, vasectomies, circs, etc) to medium length (kidney stones, TURPs, PVPs, prostheses) to long (nephrectomy, prostatectomy, cystectomy) to very long (a lot of reconstructive stuff, RPLNDs, etc). I really do just get the willies when it comes to worker's comp and disabilty. What drew you to surgery and your specific area? And, if so, why did you choose one over the other.
I spent a month with a community neurosurgeon and the closest I got to the brain was a C2-3 fusion. Although few and far between, they do get some GREAT saves. That and penises.If you go into private practice urology, you will be called in from home to place foley catheters at 2 AM. Basically, I love surgery and hope to do it, but I'm trying to figure out if the residency lifestyle in all of the surgical specialties is so terrible that I simply ought to try one of the ROAD specialties. Please read the rules carefully before posting or commenting.Press J to jump to the feed. Whatever. Ortho spine fellowship case loads range from 300 too 500. I'm an ortho pg3 right now. This turns off so many of the ortho people to spine. You don't have to worry about the job market because only 250 people join the fold each year. I'd like anyone elses input if interested.